Edited by: Yet Maria on 19/09/2009 14:52:39
Edited by: Yet Maria on 19/09/2009 14:11:02
I will have electronics upgrades LV4 tomorrow, so I will be able to use better CPU upgrades. But for right now, I'm looking at the different rigs. They seems tailored for weapons though.
Will they also lower cpu usage on mining lasers? Is there a general rig for lowering cpu usage?
Or if I could find one to increase drone space, that'd be nice. Not as good as adding an extra mining laser though.
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Any suggestions for mining? I've been mining in my Catalyst, which I find works really well. I have 5 lasers and a drone going. I want to add another drone, or buy a new ship that will mine better / faster. I'm just dumping into secure cans, cargo space is not the problem here.
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I will train up for mining barge, should not take that long.

As far as I know, there is no rig to lower cpu of mining lasers. However, most mining vessels are designed to accommodate a full rack of miner II's (or strip miners as you move up) plus a small tank.
Two skills that will help are Electronics (one of the 'core' skills everyone should train) and mining upgrades (to cut the cpu cost of mining additions).

I was able to fit 7 Miner II's on a Megathron with 3 Mining Laser Upgrades and pull 710m3 each minute. Mining lasers aren't really meant to be put on non-mining ships though. 5 is about the maximum you'll ever be able to fit on your Catalyst. There is an implant to raise ships CPU by 1%/3%/5%, but I don't think it will affect your situation much.

Try going for an Osprey while it doesn't have as many turret hardpoints, it does get a bonus to mining yield. An Osprey with Caldari Cruiser III and a set of Mining Upgrades in the low slots easily should out mine a Catalyst.

Given the efficience of destroyer in comparission with mining frigates I think that mining laser dont require enough CPU.
If you are serious about mining the next ship wold be a retriever.

Just stick with training for that Retriever. There are implants that will improve your CPU or PG, if that helps for the meantime.

No idea if this works on mining lasers though
'Hardwiring - Zainou 'Gnome' KZA1000
A neural Interface upgrade that lowers turret CPU needs.'

If your in a Cat why not swap to a cheap cruiser like a Exequorer and mine with 4 mining lasers - expanded cargo hull and a fleet of minnig drones ?

If you are dead serious about Destroyer mining I used to use the Amarr destroyer long before rigs existed it had the most cpu available. I could get 6 mining lasers on it with a rack full of CPU upgrades in the lows. I think I had to specifically use the XECL mining lasers though as they required the lowest amount of CPU, you may have to double check that. I'll have to pull out Eve Fit again sometime and see what I can do now with better skills and rigs.
Overall a larger ship though will be a better miner. With that many miners going though you'll be emptying your cargo hold like a madman.

Edited by: Andy Landen on 21/09/2009 11:58:30
The mining upgrade skill lowers the mining upgrade module (low slot) CPU usage, but that is the only option for lowering mining CPU. The alternative is to increase ship CPU with Coprocessor modules (low slot). The best mining module is Mining laser 2. Don't go with lower CPU modules because the mining volume from them sucks. For more mining volume increase per CPU drawback, use Elara mining upgrade I (about 20 mil per). In other words, Elara will maximize mining increase while minimizing the corresponding CPU increase, but the mining increase is slightly smaller per module than the higher skill Mining upgrade II module. 2 Elaras increases less than 2 mining upgrade IIs, but 3 Elaras yields a greater mining increase.
An Osprey (3 mil) with 3 Miner II (500k x3), 2 Mining upgrade II (1mil x2) and 1 Caldari Navy Co-processor (15 mil) yields 531 m3/min with my skills (5mil sp) [668 m3/min with lvl5 skills]
A Rokh (120 mil) with 8 Miner II (500k x3), 4 Elara (20 mil x4), 1 Caldari Navy Co-processor (15 mil) yields 760 m3/min with my skills (5mil sp); [860 m3/min with lvl5 skills]
Go the combat route, because the Osprey setup (21.5 mil ISK) rivals the low end mining barges, and the Rokh setup (216 mil) rivals the high end ones, plus you have skills to defend yourself and fly the other fun ships. The estimates did not include mid slots shield tank (the Caldari way). And if I may add one other tip, CPU is much less important than your choice of ore. Choose Arkonor and you can finance the options mentioned above easily. Instead of try to squeeze mining yield into CPU to your ships limits for maximum mining ISK yield, just avoid Veldspar and go for Arkonor, as this is a much more effective route (look for it in wormholes, but go with a good guide or you could lose a lot very fast).

And I can get into a wormhole from high sec? I'm still only a few weeks old.

Originally by:Andy LandenEdited by: Andy Landen on 21/09/2009 11:58:30
The mining upgrade skill lowers the mining upgrade module (low slot) CPU usage, but that is the only option for lowering mining CPU. The alternative is to increase ship CPU with Coprocessor modules (low slot). The best mining module is Mining laser 2. Don't go with lower CPU modules because the mining volume from them sucks. For more mining volume increase per CPU drawback, use Elara mining upgrade I (about 20 mil per). In other words, Elara will maximize mining increase while minimizing the corresponding CPU increase, but the mining increase is slightly smaller per module than the higher skill Mining upgrade II module. 2 Elaras increases less than 2 mining upgrade IIs, but 3 Elaras yields a greater mining increase.
An Osprey (3 mil) with 3 Miner II (500k x3), 2 Mining upgrade II (1mil x2) and 1 Caldari Navy Co-processor (15 mil) yields 531 m3/min with my skills (5mil sp) [668 m3/min with lvl5 skills]
A Rokh (120 mil) with 8 Miner II (500k x3), 4 Elara (20 mil x4), 1 Caldari Navy Co-processor (15 mil) yields 760 m3/min with my skills (5mil sp); [860 m3/min with lvl5 skills]
Go the combat route, because the Osprey setup (21.5 mil ISK) rivals the low end mining barges, and the Rokh setup (216 mil) rivals the high end ones, plus you have skills to defend yourself and fly the other fun ships. The estimates did not include mid slots shield tank (the Caldari way). And if I may add one other tip, CPU is much less important than your choice of ore. Choose Arkonor and you can finance the options mentioned above easily. Instead of try to squeeze mining yield into CPU to your ships limits for maximum mining ISK yield, just avoid Veldspar and go for Arkonor, as this is a much more effective route (look for it in wormholes, but go with a good guide or you could lose a lot very fast).

Originally by:Yet MariaAnd I can get into a wormhole from high sec? I'm still only a few weeks old.

You can find wormholes everywhere, you find then using probes. I would suggest steering clear of them for a little bit as they are nullsec which means anyone can and will violence your ships if they get the chance. Wormhole mining is usually something done in a group... strength in numbers and all that jazz.

Originally by:SkaggzI was able to fit 7 Miner II's on a Megathron with 3 Mining Laser Upgrades and pull 710m3 each minute. Mining lasers aren't really meant to be put on non-mining ships though. 5 is about the maximum you'll ever be able to fit on your Catalyst. There is an implant to raise ships CPU by 1%/3%/5%, but I don't think it will affect your situation much.

lol, Hyperion, Abbaddon, and Rokh are better for mining <3
Rokh can fit 4 MLU's and 8 Lasers with the right skills and implants.

Originally by:Yet MariaEdited by: Yet Maria on 19/09/2009 14:52:39
Edited by: Yet Maria on 19/09/2009 14:11:02
I will have electronics upgrades LV4 tomorrow, so I will be able to use better CPU upgrades. But for right now, I'm looking at the different rigs. They seems tailored for weapons though.
Will they also lower cpu usage on mining lasers? Is there a general rig for lowering cpu usage?
Or if I could find one to increase drone space, that'd be nice. Not as good as adding an extra mining laser though.
Edit-
Any suggestions for mining? I've been mining in my Catalyst, which I find works really well. I have 5 lasers and a drone going. I want to add another drone, or buy a new ship that will mine better / faster. I'm just dumping into secure cans, cargo space is not the problem here.
Edit 2-
I will train up for mining barge, should not take that long.

Mining Barge will be best.
Or a battleship.
Destroyers are **** miners, mining cruisers are better and more efficient.

Edited by: Sky Mart on 17/11/2009 23:41:09
I have to agree....you don't want to mine in the ship your using...the bonus to yield that you get using a mining ship far outweighs the bonus you think you would get from the extra mining lasers. Only thing you might want to mine in other than a mining based ship is a battleship if you need the extra tank to hold off belt rats in 0.0 but even them you can skill up enough to use the hulk for almost any NPC rat so even then would only use the battleship temporarily.
If your serious about mining read the guide and follow it to the hulk http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1020825 Linkage(link to the guide), if mining is just a passing phase train to use the osprey(caldari ) or similar other racial ship on your way to your battleship.